Monday, October 5, 2015

Queens Community for Lesbian and Gay Seniors, formerly SAGE Queen, by Louis Brown


I have been in New York City for the past 2 months because I had to stay there to wait for my scheduled cataractectomy of my right eye. When in New York City, I reside in College Point in Queens County. I have noticed over the years that the Lesbian gay community of Queens County is not really as well organized as the gay community in Manhattan. For example, Manhattan has a healthy chapter of MCC, and most churches have a Lesbian-gay caucus.

About 30 years ago, I organized a group called The Good Shepherd Christian Fellowship which lasted about 2 ½ years in the basement of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Flushing. My purpose was to have local gay and Lesbian people talk to the local Protestant clergy. It worked up to a point, but in the long run it did not catch on. About 2 years before I started my religious project, a chapter of Dignity Queens was open for business that also met in the basement of the UU Church of Flushing. I remember the UU Church only charged $75.00 for the use of the basement, and it had a very nice kitchen the tenant could use. This was perfect for the Good Shepherd Christian Fellowship’s special gay Christian Seder Service.

Then of course around Easter time the UU Church held its own ecumenical style Seder service. Once, a rabbi said that a Seder service should only be held in a Jewish Synagogue. I think the message of the Seder service is universal and should be celebrated by various religious traditions of course in a reverent respectful manner.

Personally, I am only semi-religious, but I am uncomfortable with the general lack of options for gay people to have safe churches to go to.

One exploring soul I told you about last year was openly Lesbian Rabbi Laura who coincidentally also lives in College Point, my home town in Queens County. Last year Rabbi Laura gave a course in comparative religion at New York SAGE. The course was well attended. Last summer, also by way of coincidence, Laura met John Nagel, the director of Queens Community House for Lesbian and Gay Seniors, which operates out of the Jewish Center in Jackson Heights Queens. They met at Cherry Grove on Long Island which, as you know, is an important gay and Lesbian mecca. I recently asked John Nagel if he met Rabbi Laura. John said he had and even tried to start her comparative religion course at Queens Community House, but there was an insufficient response so the course did not happen.

About two years ago Queens Community House was SAGE Queens. For some reason I do not know about, they split away from SAGE although they remain on good terms with SAGE New York. Queens Community House’s program for gay and Lesbian Seniors is set up like a Senior Center, which means lunch is served daily, Monday through Friday. I go Tuesdays and Thursdays, Tuesday because that is the day of the general meeting and Thursday because there is the spiritual hour.

The past 2 Thursdays John Nagel made a presentation of the Christian religious thought of Emma (Curtis) Hopkins, 1845-1925. Quoting briefly from her biography, as seen on Wikipedia:

Differing from Eddy’s (i.e. Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science), lead in speaking of God as both Mother and Father, Hopkins conceptualized the Trinity as three aspects of divinity, each playing a role in different historical epochs: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Mother-Spirit or Holy Comforter. Hopkins believed (as did Eddy, though not as parochially) that spiritual healing was the second coming of Christ into the world, and this was the hallmark of her early work. Hopkins also believed more specifically that the changing roles of women indicated their prominence in the Godhead, signaling a new epoch identified by the INCLUSION [my caps] of the Mother aspect God.

I particularly liked that idea of INCLUSION. John Nagel’s obvious purpose in discussing Emma Hopkins’ theological writing is to tell Lesbian and gay people that obviously homophobes do not have a monopoly on faith, on Christianity. It is all up for interpretation, and our community needs religious scholars to develop a gay and Lesbian positive theology to fit our needs. Previously John read passages about an ancient Islamic scholar Rumi and his soul mate Seth. Their affectionate correspondence with one another points to a gay and Lesbian history and an as yet unnamed Lesbian and gay history in Islam.

Also on Tuesdays and Thursdays at the Queens Community House meetings, Tony the Personal Trainer, has a bunch of us do our exercises. Previously that would not have interested me much, but, I had to have a lot of physical therapy since last September 2014 when I had my bicycle accident, and Tony’s exercises make a very appropriate extension of my physical therapy. I have already run out of what Medicare would pay for this. Tony’s exercises are practically the same thing. I go to Queens Community House with my College Point boyfriend Kevin who is slightly spastic from aphasia so also derives benefit from these exercises.

My “moral” for SAGE of the Rockies is perhaps an attempt to see if you can obtain further services from Denver’s version of Office for the Aging. For example, last summer Queens Community House’s annual trip to Cherry Grove was free. On paper, New York City paid the bill although in reality some wealthy game, I am pretty sure, ponied up the cash.

Joining up with the New York City Department for the Aging also means lunch which costs $2.00. It is always on Tuesdays and Thursdays chicken with barley or rice with vegetables. It’s not that lunch is all that great, although it is well cooked, it enables the participants to stay longer perhaps to participate in the afternoon programs.

© September 2015 

About the Author 


I was born in 1944, I lived most of my life in New York City, Queens County. I still commute there. I worked for many years as a Caseworker for New York City Human Resources Administration, dealing with mentally impaired clients, then as a social work Supervisor dealing with homeless PWA's. I have an apartment in Wheat Ridge, CO. I retired in 2002. I have a few interesting stories to tell. My boyfriend Kevin lives in New York City. I graduated Queens College, CUNY, in 1967.

1 comment:

  1. Nice piece about how the Queens group used to be. Still the same, actually. However, the name of the group is now the Queens Center for Gay Seniors. Years ago, it was called SAGE Queens, although it actually had no connection with SAGE except a gentleperson's agreement to share the name of the more famous and very visible large orgnization, since that would identify our smaller group as gay even to rather closeted people. Queens Community House is actually the mother agency for the gay group, and has been since that group's beginnings in 1995. QCH has a number of activities and the gay senior center in Jackson Heights is, I believe, the only predominantly gay program in its portfolio.

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